Compare Joomla! vs. Grav

Joomla! is one of the big three PHP CMSes. Currently it uses only a single component from the Symfony project. Joomla remains a strong contender with a large number of users and extensions.

Grav is a fresh flat-file database which is easy to install. It uses a number of Symfony components and is very fast to get started with.

• Large developer and user base
• Plenty of ready made extensions available
• Tried and tested basic concepts

• Fast to install and get started with
• Extensible via Plugins, Skeletons and Themes
• A fresh codebase, no PHP4 cruft here

• Administration can be confusing
• Lack of focus, tries to do everything
• Codebase is a mix of old and new

• Limited use cases due to flat-file approach
• Limited developer base
• Needs more work to round the edges in real-world use